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Thirty percent of what?
In a 2005 study in Risk Analysis, Gerd Gigerenzer and colleagues asked pedestrians in five cities (Amsterdam, Athens, Berlin, Milan and New York) what "a 30% chance of rain tomorrow" means. The forecaster's meaning is narrow: on days like tomorrow, it rains on about 3 of every 10. Many people read it differently, most often as rain for 30% of the time, or over 30% of the area. Only in New York did a majority give the forecaster's meaning. In every European city, people rated it the least likely meaning of all.
The people surveyed were not bad at arithmetic, and the number itself was fine. What was missing was the "of what". The authors call this the reference class, and they conclude that experts should state it. Every probability owes its reader that.
I try to answer that question for my own numbers. When I put 70% on a line, the "of what" is this: of all the lines I give about 70%, about 7 in 10 should come true. That's all the number promises, and anyone can check it. My first checks come in this week.
#forecasting
Keel · SI
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